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Knido · Feb 01, 2006, 08:56 PM // 20:56

now, as many of you know, white light is broken up into the light spectrum (or color spectrum, whatever), which consists of all the colors of the rainbow.

as you may also know, there are 3 things that light can do when it reaches an object or obstruction : Be Absorbed, be reflected, or be transmitted.

the colors you see come from the colors of the spectrum that are being reflected back, not the ones being absorbed or transmitted.

Look around, and see all the colors around you, and i ask you:

what do you think is the real color of everything? i mean, if the colors you see are just reflections from white light, what color is it in reality? underneath or without the light?

this might be impossible to tell, since without light you cannot see anything, but if there were some way to see stuff as if it was lit up when it was actually pitch black....i would be satisfied.

anyone have an idea?

TheEPIC · Feb 01, 2006, 09:09 PM // 21:09

Nothing has a color in and of itself, it just appears to have a color because of the way it absorbs and reflects light as you have stated. This is happens as a result of the chemical make up of the object the light is bouncing off. So in a sense, I would think everything has no color at all and what we see is just a result of the chemical make up of the objects.

EchoSex · Feb 01, 2006, 09:54 PM // 21:54

All colors = white, no color = black. At least that's what's on the spectrum of modern art.

BTW, doesn't Science Content come from MythBusters? :P

Omega Complex · Feb 01, 2006, 10:12 PM // 22:12

Well by basic physical theories, what makes a color reflect, is the color itself. A green leaf absorbs all but the green wavelengths of light. The green wavelengths are reflected and they will be "seen" by your eye as green, the same goes for a red shirt, or a black shirt, et cetera... So the color you see, is, as far as I know, the actual color of an object.

Fatty Fatty Boomballati · Feb 01, 2006, 10:51 PM // 22:51

The true color of an object is every color but the color you see.

master_ranger_matt · Feb 01, 2006, 11:09 PM // 23:09

there 9is no true color..color is an illusion created by light

Knido · Feb 01, 2006, 11:31 PM // 23:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by EchoSex

All colors = white, no color = black. At least that's what's on the spectrum of modern art.

BTW, doesn't Science Content come from MythBusters? :P

hehe knew someone would catch it

mabye i should ask them o.o

PieXags · Feb 01, 2006, 11:37 PM // 23:37

Black is the lack of white, white is the lack of black. Pure gray is every color in existance. In a physical sense, mixing every color without any white will give you black. In the sense of light, mixing every color light with the exception of black (no light/dark light) will give you white. If you add any black (absence of white) to a white light, you'll get transparency (the gray's "light" form).

Without white (which will also represent light, or "lack of black" in this statement), you will only have the color black (which will also represent darkness, or "lack of white").

When speaking in a physical sense (paint, crayons, etc) mixing every color we have (white and black) will give you gray. In physical means pure gray is every color we have. In a sense of light, transparency is every color we have.

So when speaking in terms of light and the concept of color and how we see them, how do we see "gray" in it's light form (transparency)? The answer is simply that we don't. We see nothingness. (Not to be confused with being "blind", to be blind is for your brain to have the inability to recognize white (light).) So nobody knows what the purest of colors is in a light form, because it would be something we are unable to see. Not black, not white, not darkness, or light. Nothing.

Gray = all colors physically combined
Nothingness = Gray's equal in terms of light

I have no idea what the hell that had to do with whatever we were talking about, but that's the whole of color and light.

benmanhaha · Feb 01, 2006, 11:48 PM // 23:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by PieXags

Black is the lack of white, white is the lack of black. Pure gray is every color in existance. In a physical sense, mixing every color without any white will give you black. In the sense of light, mixing every color light with the exception of black (no light/dark light) will give you white. If you add any black (absence of white) to a white light, you'll get transparency (the gray's "light" form).

Without white (which will also represent light, or "lack of black" in this statement), you will only have the color black (which will also represent darkness, or "lack of white").

When speaking in a physical sense (paint, crayons, etc) mixing every color we have (white and black) will give you gray. In physical means pure gray is every color we have. In a sense of light, transparency is every color we have.

So when speaking in terms of light and the concept of color and how we see them, how do we see "gray" in it's light form (transparency)? The answer is simply that we don't. We see nothingness. (Not to be confused with being "blind", to be blind is for your brain to have the inability to recognize white (light).) So nobody knows what the purest of colors is in a light form, because it would be something we are unable to see. Not black, not white, not darkness, or light. Nothing.

Gray = all colors physically combined
Nothingness = Gray's equal in terms of light

I have no idea what the hell that had to do with whatever we were talking about, but that's the whole of color and light.

That was so informative, my head is about to explode. But it does make sense.

EchoSex · Feb 01, 2006, 11:59 PM // 23:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by PieXags

Black is the lack of white, white is the lack of black. Pure gray is every color in existance. In a physical sense, mixing every color without any white will give you black. In the sense of light, mixing every color light with the exception of black (no light/dark light) will give you white. If you add any black (absence of white) to a white light, you'll get transparency (the gray's "light" form).

Without white (which will also represent light, or "lack of black" in this statement), you will only have the color black (which will also represent darkness, or "lack of white").

When speaking in a physical sense (paint, crayons, etc) mixing every color we have (white and black) will give you gray. In physical means pure gray is every color we have. In a sense of light, transparency is every color we have.

So when speaking in terms of light and the concept of color and how we see them, how do we see "gray" in it's light form (transparency)? The answer is simply that we don't. We see nothingness. (Not to be confused with being "blind", to be blind is for your brain to have the inability to recognize white (light).) So nobody knows what the purest of colors is in a light form, because it would be something we are unable to see. Not black, not white, not darkness, or light. Nothing.

Gray = all colors physically combined
Nothingness = Gray's equal in terms of light

I have no idea what the hell that had to do with whatever we were talking about, but that's the whole of color and light.

Ahh... The classic color wheel.. How the death of ye will surely be missed. The "Modern Color Scheme," developed by some nut interior designer, is ALMOST the same, but with some really odd rules. Analogous colors don't exsist, the complementry colors are all messed up and the primarys are different. Gray is now called "Neutral" and white is the primary colors mixed while black is no color at all. They taught this at FS but not at BCC. I guess it's a new, ununtilized theory.

Omega Complex · Feb 02, 2006, 12:56 AM // 00:56

Thier just trying to be "modern"

Divinitys Creature · Feb 02, 2006, 09:00 PM // 21:00

Well, let's look a level deeper. How does light interact with matter? Absorption, reflection and transmission can be defined by material properties that determine refractive index, which wavelengths are absorbed, and transmitted. In that sense the true colour can be defined by the subatomic composition of the object, a series of numbers. Objects you see in a telescope are red-shifted but that can be accounted for to calculate the "true colour".

Mercury Angel · Feb 02, 2006, 09:07 PM // 21:07

Considering colour as we know it is the reaction between photoreceptors in our eyes and reflected light, I don't think there is a such thing as 'true colour'. Since we define colour as how we perceive it, and we're limited to our own perceptions, if there were a hidden colour we couldn't perceive about the objects (which, considering the large portion of the spectrum we can't perceive...), it still wouldn't matter since it doesn't fall into the realm of observable to us, and we therefore wouldn't count it.
Or something like that.

Siran Dunmorgan · Feb 02, 2006, 11:21 PM // 23:21

In the old days, when Science was considered the answer for everything, and revolutionary discoveries and techniques were behind every corner, i.e., back in the 1940s, some older folks with degenerative eye diseases were surgically fitted with (then ultra-modern) plastic lenses, replacing the natural lens of their eyes.

Now, this gave the folks back their sight, up to a point—the artificial hard plastic lenses couldn't focus as well as natural ones, of course, and there were recurring problems with infection, which it why the technique was abandoned until the introduction of better antibiotics in the 1960s.

What's most odd about this, however, is that they were able to see farther into the ultraviolet than folks who still had their natural eyesight; they could literally see colors to which the rest of us were blind.

The modern version of lens replacement surgery uses a newer plastic that blocks ultraviolet as well as a natural lens, but... still... the ability to see otherwise invisible colors...

—Siran Dunmorgan

Nocere Moriari · May 09, 2006, 06:03 AM // 06:03

Well fromm a medical (forensic) point of view, individuals with blue eyes actualy have a brown pigment that upon exposur to a light source it reflex blue, Brown eyed people have another pigment....( LOL sorry dont remember the color

) and this explaines why people with green/hazel eyes the color changes dependiing on the color of there cloth or even the color of the room they are in!!!!!! This happens because the color green is the the most sensitive color that the cells in the optic nerve register ( more then 66,000 tones of green) that is the real reason the infrared equip. sees in green.

BUT the BEST are albino individuales that actually dont have any pigment at all... and the reazon for there eyes look red or pink is actually arterial blood flow the travels irrigating the iris muscle

how about that!!!!!!!!

unda dawg · May 10, 2006, 03:30 AM // 03:30

every color is secretly pink...

~words of wisdom

{IceFire} · May 10, 2006, 03:53 AM // 03:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by master_ranger_matt

there 9is no true color..color is an illusion created by light

kyoo eff tee